I got to have a really nice lunch with Russel at Thai Spice.  He also showed me around his office, which looks really nice.  He has been there for 6 years now and is doing great.  He is the technical sales guy, which means when the salesmen actually need someone who knows something he is the one who comes in to give estimates and design.  We talked for at least 3 hours and it was really nice to catch up.